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| Jim
Albracht's radio interview with CEO of Cybersober.com Robert B. Morgan
II. WOC 1420AM Talk Radio Daverport, Iowa. (11/11/02) |
Posted
on Mon, Sep. 23, 2002
STAYING STRAIGHT WHILE ON THE ROAD
Web site helps out-of-town addicts find support
By NERY YNCLAN
nynclan@herald.com
The out-of-town business meeting was wrapping
up and the talk turned to drinking. Rob Morgan hadn't downed a drop
in two years, but he knew he was in trouble.
He called Alcoholics Anonymous in Dallas to find
a nearby meeting. No answer.
''I called back 10 minutes later, and no answer,''
he says. ``I wasn't anxious -- I was afraid.''
Morgan did the only thing he could think of --
get into bed and literally hide under the covers. It was 6:15 p.m.
The former insurance underwriter and motel owner
made it through the night. By morning, an idea was born. And six
months of hard work and more than a million dollars of his own money
later, cybersober.com was up and running.
The growing website, now 3 years old, links out-of-town
AA members and those with other addictions like gambling or narcotics
with nearby meetings and arms them with directions from Mapquest.
Morgan says the site gets as many as 12,000 hits
a day while serving a major labor union, 14 treatment centers and
hundreds of individual subscribers.
''When you need a meeting, it's an emotional panic,''
says Morgan, whose business is based in Palm Beach. ``An alcoholic
will use any excuse to have a drink. Not finding a meeting is one
more excuse.''
An estimated 14 million people in the United States
are alcoholics. But experts estimate only about one in 10 seek treatment.
Dr. Barbara Mason, a nationally recognized expert
on alcoholism from the University of Miami's Medical School, says
that support during emotionally charged moments and tempting situations
is critical for recovering addicts. She thinks cybersober.com is
one more tool.
''For people who travel, they're at such high
risk,'' Mason says. ``They have so many frequent flier miles they're
always upgrading and getting constantly offered the magic potion.
They're at hotels alone. The bar is downstairs. Rob Morgan identified
an important hole in the support system and found a way to fill
it.''
Mason says Internet sites like AA's alcoholicsanonymous.org
and others have provided a bridge for many people too shy or depressed
to seek help from a group meeting. She says in her research at UM
funded by the National Institutes of Health, she and colleagues
have found that web interaction can lead some patients from chat
rooms into live support groups.
''Alcoholism is a major public health problem,''
says Mason. ``It costs the American economy $150 billion a year
in terms of premature death, lost work days and medical costs for
alcohol-related diseases and accidents.
EFFECTS LAST A YEAR
''Even after treatment, there's a 50 percent chance
of relapse after three months,'' she says. ``We know the effects
of alcoholism on the brain last for a year after the last drink.
That's why the kind of support you get from meetings can be enormously
helpful.''
(A spokesperson for AA Worldwide Services in New
York said ``there are many wonderful things out there helping people
in all sorts of ways, but we don't comment on anything outside of
AA.'')
For Morgan, now 41 and father to two young children,
that night in Dallas was one of hundreds of miserable nights in
his fight to stay straight. He began drinking beer in his parents'
home when he was 13. There was a liquor cabinet and beer on tap.
''It started with beer. I didn't like the taste
of it, but I liked the feeling after I had the third one,'' he says.
``When I went to college I didn't fit in; my friends
weren't there. The only thing that made me fit in was drinking.
I could drink more than the rest of them, and all of a sudden I
was a star.''
By then it was hard liquor, and cocaine soon followed.
Through his 20s he kept a job as an insurance underwriter while
working for his father, CEO of a major insurance company. Before
the bingeing was over Morgan had been in and out of treatment facilities
seven times.
When alcoholics join AA, they're advised to attend
a meeting every day for the first 90 days. When Morgan entered the
program in 1994, he says, he attended 393 meetings in those first
three months. By then he had lost his girlfriend, his job and his
self-esteem.
''I went to four or five meetings a day,'' he
says. 'It was that bad. I had a counselor who would always say,
`Your mind is out to kill you,' and mine was.''
One client of cybersober.com is a major local
union official who has been dry for 23 years. He asked his name
not be used. He says his job takes him all over the world and he
logs onto the website before every trip.
''I find out what city I'm going to, and the website
gives me a printout of the 30 closest meetings to me,'' he says.
``It's my security blanket. If my schedule doesn't fit the meeting,
I change my schedule.''
Becoming a member of cybersober.com costs $10
for six months, $19.95 for a year. Morgan also has a one-day free
membership for people who might be as desperate as he was in Dallas.
The site also hooks up clients to Narcotics Anonymous, Al Anon for
family support, Overeaters Anonymous, Gamblers Anonymous, Sex Aholics
Anonymous, Nicotine Anonymous and other 12-step meetings.
Like Morgan, this former Eastern Airlines mechanic
started with beer in his teens and says he didn't stop boozing until
he was 42.
``I went to meetings every night for a year. I
now go to about three meetings a week. I go more to pay back than
for my own protection, but it does keep me sane.''
CHAT ROOMS, TOO
In addition to the meetings and maps, the site
has chat rooms, free online meetings and reference materials. Morgan
says he hasn't made any money on the site and the charge covers
costs.
Making people aware of the site is Morgan's mission
and part of his ongoing therapy. He credits his whole extended family
with his sobriety, but his father in particular.
''If it wasn't for my father and him not giving
up on me I know I would be dead or in jail,'' he says.
Morgan's father, Bob, now retired and living in
Cincinnati, says the addiction affected the whole family. For Bob
Morgan it was the second time around -- his father had been an alcoholic.
''It was really just devastating,'' Bob Morgan
says of his son's battle. ``We had other children who didn't have
Rob's problem, but wanted and needed our attention -- it created
a lot of stress within the family.
''But you don't give up on someone you love,''
says Morgan, who also invested in the website. ``It's a fatal thing
for Rob to drink. It is for a lot of people. I'm just so proud that
he's created something that's so important for others and helps
him too.''
Asked if he will stay sober, Rob Morgan responds
without hesitation:
``I'll be an alcoholic and a drug addict
until the day I die. I'm doing good now. Today. If I get myself
too far back or too far ahead I'm easily overwhelmed. I get up in
the morning, I kiss my wife and my kids and I thank God for my sobriety.
I go to bed the same way.''
Source: Miami
Herald
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Interview
With Rob Morgan
Aired September 10, 2002 - 06:23 ET CHAD
MYERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know me, I'm always on this machine.
And every once in a while I find a Web site that really kind of,
it takes something that I go, you know, this was just a great idea,
why didn't I think of this.
I found one the other day, Rob Morgan, the founder is on the phone
with us. It's called Cybersober.com. And as I clicked on it, and
I clicked around, there's 220,000 either Alcoholics Anonymous meetings,
Narc Anon meetings, all on this Web site. So it, well, if you're
out of town and you need to find a meeting, you can.
And Rob Morgan joins us now.
Rob, are you on the line?
ROB MORGAN, CYBERSOBER.COM: Yes, Chad. How are
you doing?
MYERS: Good morning.
Thanks for waking up so early from Boca Raton,
Florida this morning.
Tell me a little bit about this Web site and,
you know, how it all started.
MORGAN: Well, I was traveling on a business trip
and I was real young in my sobriety. And I came back to the hotel
and I wanted to find a meeting. And I called the Inner Group. I
tried three times without any help. Nobody answered the telephone.
So I walked down to the front desk and they gave me the same telephone
number. So I ended up going to bed at around 6:00 p.m.
MYERS: Now, as I'm reading here, it took you eight
times -- not to get personal on you, but, you know, I want to get
into your background. It took you eight times to get sober, is that
what I'm hearing? Is that what I'm reading here?
MORGAN: Actually, seven, but...
MYERS: Seven.
MORGAN: ... we won't split hairs over that one.
MYERS: All right, yes.
What can people find on this Web site, on Cybersober.com?
What are we getting here? MORGAN: Well, besides maps to meetings,
we have online recovery support meetings. We have a reference library
for prevention and education. We have a forum, a private journal
place, a treatment locator, patient member management systems for
professionals and finally we have a neat little thing called Our
Place for Families, which is for children and parents both to interact
and we're constantly building in just neat little things like that.
MYERS: I'm reading here about your Post-Traumatic
Stress Disorder about the 9/11 and that's why I wanted you on today.
Sixty- seven thousand Manhattan residents had Post-Traumatic Stress
Disorder after 9/11 and 87,000 had depression at the time this survey
was taken. And a lot of those folks have turned to drinking and
substance abuse. And that's why I want to, that's why I wanted you
on today.
What can you do for those folks there? How do
they get on your Web site?
MORGAN: Well, I don't know if you've heard about
this, but in honor of 9/11 we have given a week long, well, it's
actually till next Monday, a free membership. People can get on
using the user name CNN and password DAYBREAK.
MYERS: Right. We have it on our screen there.
MORGAN: OK. And they go onto it. They go into
the meetings. They hit, find meetings.
MYERS: There they are. There's a bunch for Atlanta
right there.
MORGAN: Right. What they'll do is they'll go through
and they'll pick their meeting and then an overview map will come
up. And then they'll click directions at the bottom and after that
comes up they'll put their address and point of origin in and then
a map, a door to door direction map will appear.
MYERS: It sounds great.
You know, we're about out of time, but it's not
only for Alcoholics Anonymous. It's Narc Anon, it's Gamblers Anonymous,
Overeaters Anonymous, 210,000 support group meetings listed by zip
code. So if you're out of town, if you're out of state, if you're
in an airport and you need to not drink for some reason, you know,
I mean obviously we had meetings and we had stories about that.
Rob, thank you very much. I hope this will help
some folks.
MORGAN: Thank you.
MYERS: Anybody who needs to get on there today
or for the next couple of days for a little bit of support, CNN
the user name, daybreak is the password, and it's all for free.
COSTELLO: Oh, that's a great one.
MYERS: Thanks, Rob. Yes.
COSTELLO: Thank you, Chad.
Source: CNN |
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Aftercare Goes High-Tech
Treatment professionals today face a variety of challenges. These
include but are not limited to: less time for treatment, budget
restraints, cut backs on staffing, heavy client loads, and restrictions
placed on them by payers and it is easy to see why frustrations
frequently are high.
Many counseling professionals would like to provide a higher quality
of care involving longer stays in treatment and more efficient post
treatment follow-up. Yet counselors and patients alike often find
they do not have the resources to make this possible. According
to Alan Goodstat, LCSW, “In order to decrease the chances of relapse
among our patients, the most important thing we as professionals
can do is provide a sound continuing and aftercare plan that would
enable us to maintain a higher level of communication with our clients
after they leave the daily supervision of our center”.
This, however, involves counselors doing follow up calls when they
already have a full caseload and limited time – they are expected
to keep, maintain, and record outcome studies. These studies include
statistics, demographical date, successes, as well as failures.
With today’s transient population, simply trying to keep up with
a current phone number is a task within itself. Many treatment centers
are turning to alumni groups to help their patients after they return
home. This has helped reduce some of the aftercare concerns, although
there cannot be an alumni group in every city throughout the world.
The answer to several of these problems may lie in emerging information
and communication technology – both of which promise to usher in
a wealth of innovative solutions for healthcare, including quality,
access, and cost. Gradually, treatment centers are turning to technology
for help. The ease of access and affordability of the Internet makes
it the logical next step in helping centers and individual counseling
professionals perform their duties more efficiently. Online companies
have established virtual a la carte menus, providing counselors
and patients with the following:
- Secure client data collection starting the day the patient arrives
for treatment. The information is forwarded electronically without
violating the patient’s right to privacy or the Health Insurance
Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA).
- Acquiring times and locations of 12-steps meetings for existing
patients so they leave treatment with a clear game plan. Thanks
to the Internet, gone are the days of calling inter-group offices
and running the risk of no answer, not being given the choice
of all meetings, or getting lost in an unfamiliar area.
- Increased levels of accreditation compliance through more
complete discharge planning, patient participation, management
of information, and professional development.
- Web sites allow counselors to maintain contact with patients
after they leave treatment via online aftercare, center sponsored
online private support meetings, progress reports, and surveys
– all generated with one mouse click.
An example of one such Internet company is Florida-based CyberSober.com,
Inc. (www.cybersober.com)
- a private organization whose mission it is to provide economical
assistance and support to both professionals and those recovering.
In an effort to assist all parties involved in the recovery process,
CyberSober and other web companies, such About.com and SAMHSA.gov,
provide the quality support that patients and counselors desperately
need. About.com has a health section that includes extensive information
pertaining to substance abuse. The official web site for the Substance
Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration is SAMHSA.gov. In
addition to information about substance abuse, this web site has
a treatment facility finder. Along with other services, CyberSober.com
displays maps and directions to over 200,000 support group meeting
around the world as well as resources for treatment professionals
and those in recovery.
The blending of technology and treatment is simply the next logical
step. With the use of Internet, treatment centers can increase their
visibility, counselors can save valuable time, and the quality of
care will be increased. Patients will be able to leave treatment
more informed as to their next step and families will feel more
comfortable with knowing everything is being done to insure success
for their loved ones.
The mission of alcohol and drug abuse treatment is to treat the
whole person with education and prevention, group therapy, and intensive
one-on-one counseling – the latter being the greatest challenge
counselors face as they are expected to perform so many duties.
This problem affects their main mission, lasting sobriety and recovery.
It is time to move forward and face the fact that the old way is
not working and we must explore new methods of support through technology.
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Web site aids treatment centers with discharge planning It's
no secret that discharge planning is a top trouble spot for behavioral
health organizations trying to comply with Joint Commission standards.
Surveyors often fault facilities whose discharge plans are too glib
or too generic. Instead, the accreditor looks for plans that will
help ensure the client continues treatment or gets the support he
or she needs to stay healthy.
But organizations
trying to form good discharge plans often have high hurdles to clear.
Finding resources for clients to tap into after discharge, and ensuring
that the client actually takes advantage of what's offered, can
prove time-consuming for staff who are already overwhelmed.
One facility
found an answer to its discharge planning dilemma in cyberspace
by using a Web-based tool geared toward drug and alcohol rehabilitation
programs. Known as Cybersober.com, the site, which has been online
for about a year and a half, has freed up hours of staff time, an
administrator says.
"It
meets most JCAHO compliance [standards] involving treatment planning,"
says Alan Goodstat, LCSW, administrator of Focus Healthcare of Florida,
a 62 bed facility that treats addiction disorders on both an inpatient
and outpatient basis in Cooper City, FL. "It's a neat way of
providing excellent care."
Holding
patients accountable
Focus Healthcare
began using Cybersober.com about six months ago as a pilot facility.
The site is designed so that patients from participating organizations
can log in and get directions to meetings such as Alcoholics or
Narcotics Anonymous, as well as ancillary programs such as Al-Anon
or Alateen. They also get access to other treatment providers online.
Patients
get instructions on using the site as part of the discharge planning
process. if they don't have Internet access at home, they can still
access the site through public Internet stations at libraries and
community centers.
Traditionally,
treatment programs such as Focus Healthcare give patients information
about meetings as part of their discharge plans. But attendance
of these programs-considered crucial to maintaining sobriety-suffers
when patients have trouble finding them, Goodstat says. The Web
site eliminates that problem by providing instant, updated directions
and times to appropriate meetings.
"It's
a way of holding the patient accountable," he says. "The
biggest excuse we get at discharge is they say, 'Well, I couldn't
find it.’
Ultimately,
Goodstat says Focus Healthcare will try to use the site for program
alumni by allowing them to communicate with other treatment facilities.
“It’s just
helped us a lot. It adds a lot of credibility to our program. It
allows us to have the patient active in the discharge planning process,"
he says. "It allows us to demonstrate that we are following
the patient through the treatment and the discharge process."
Genesis
of a Web site
When the
joint Commission dislikes a discharge plan, it often criticizes
an organization's failure to focus on the patient. Cybersober.com
president and chief executive officer Robert Morgan knows about
that problem firsthand-he has been in addiction recovery for six
years, having gone through seven rounds of treatment before he finally
got sober for good.
Prior to
his recovery, Morgan says the longest he had been able to stay sober
was 60 days. A former insurance underwriter and travel industry
worker, he often had trouble finding Alcoholics Anonymous group
meetings because he would call an outdated telephone number and
get no answer. If he could reach someone, he would sometimes get
lost going to meetings in strange cities because the directions
were unclear.
"That
started the wheels spinning," Morgan says.
Web site
In May 1999,
he formed Cybersober.com in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. A month later, he
licensed with MapQuest, a popular site devoted to providing directions
to Web users. After a year, Cybersober.com had compiled a list of
more than 125,000 12?step meetings. The company is now marketing
to treatment centers for use as part of an after-care package, as
well as court systems, corporations needing the service as part
of employee benefits packages, and universities. Today, it provides
information about 190,000 meetings in 52 countries.
As part of
his research, Morgan says he has looked into patient compliance
challenges that providers face.
"Treatment
centers don't have much choice besides saying, 'Here are the meetings
we have, here's the intergroup number, and good luck,’ “Morgan says.
"I think we've created a better mousetrap- [clients] can go
home with something tangible in their hands."
Treatment
centers can also use the site to build a lot of good will with patients
families by going the extra mile to provide such details as maps
to meetings, Morgan says.
Patient participation
is important to the joint Commission, and Morgan says his site helps
clients participate in their own aftercare.
"If
1 was the center, I would want to know that I did everything possible
and I exhausted every tool possible to give the person guidance
and direction when they leave here," he says.
Performance
improvement
Eventually,
Cybersober.com hopes to design a page that will provide online aftercare
for patients if they want it, Morgan says. Treatment centers would
be
able to maintain
relationships with their clients by providing care without tying
up their resources as much as they would with in-person meetings.
The Joint
Commission recently has placed a lot of emphasis on performance
improvement and use of statistics to demonstrate such improvement
through projects. Morgan says his site plans to help those initiatives
by tracking statistics of its users and conducting surveys, such
as asking users how long they have stayed sober after leaving a
program. Because the user is identified through his or her ID and
password, Cybersober.com can funnel the information back to the
facility to use the statistics in identifying areas that need improvement.
Likewise,
treatment centers-which are often strapped for resources-can get
rid of a lot of paperwork by switching to computerized discharge
plans, which theoretically makes survey preparation easier, Morgan
says.
Goodstat
says Focus Healthcare has found the site meets JCAHC standards for
information management, continuum of care, and discharge planning,
though he acknowledges that a joint Commission surveyor won't evaluate
the organization's use of the program until February 2001.
However,
he says the staff has saved time by avoiding phone calls and voice-mail
tag trying to get information about meetings for discharge plans.
That is particularly helpful when trying to piece together information
for clients who live in remote areas in other parts of the country,
Goodstat says.
The site "allows us to find meetings in an area
where I know someone would have to spend an hour and a half on the
phone trying to find the meeting," he adds. "We have found
it to be a really user-friendly product that has allowed us to automate
some of our systems."
Morgan believes
the Joint Commission will give the program its stamp of approval.
"I'm
not saying we are the cure-all," Morgan cautions, though he
adds, "I think we're the beginning. This disease is baffling
to so many people."
Copyright
2000 C&R Publications
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Most addiction experts agree abstinence
is the only treatment. But for those in the early stages of alcohol
abuse, some experts say learning to drink in moderation may be an
option. (PhotoDisc) |
By
Ephrat
Livni

N E W Y O R K, Aug. 2
— Is there such a thing as a harmless drink for an alcohol abuser?
Last month, in Washington state, Audrey Kishline, the founder of Moderation
Management, a self-help group for problem drinkers, pleaded guilty
to killing two people while driving drunk. Soon after, Alex DeLuca,
the director of the Smithers Addiction Treatment and Research Center
in Manhattan, resigned after failing to convince his clinic that moderation
was a viable treatment approach for some people who abuse alcohol.
The two events have ignited intense debate among addiction experts
over how to treat problem drinking in the United States, where 14
million people, or 7.5 percent of the population, abuse alcohol to
varying degrees. On any given day, according to a 1993 National Institute
on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism survey, more than 700,000 Americans
receive treatment for alcohol abuse or dependence.
Proponents of abstinence point to Kishline’s accident as tragic proof
that problem drinkers cannot learn how to consume moderate amounts
of alcohol. “What is so terrific about alcohol that we need to keep
[them] drinking?” asks Jeffrey Hon, director of public affairs for
the National Council on Alcohol and Drugs. He argues that problem
drinkers, at any stage, adversely affect the lives of others.
Meanwhile, those who accept moderation as a treatment option say absolute
solutions drive away drinkers from seeking help.
When Is Drinking a Problem?
For people who are alcohol dependent — commonly called alcoholics
— addiction experts agree abstinence is the only treatment. But
according to the American Psychiatric Association, there are different
degrees of addiction to alcohol. And defining abusers vs. full-fledged
alcoholics is a thorny question, and key to the debate.
An abuser, according to the APA, is someone who continues to drink
although it is the source of social, physical or work problems and
leads to an inability to fulfill school or home obligations.
A dependence diagnosis is more severe and requires that a person
meet criteria such as increased tolerance to alcohol, withdrawal
syndrome, persistent desire to drink or failed efforts to control
drinking and reduced activities in favor of drinking.
The Department of Health and Human Services defines moderate drinkers,
or those who do not have a problem with alcohol, as those who consume
no more than two drinks a day, for men 65 years old and younger,
and one drink a day, for men over 65 and women of all ages.
Individuals who abuse or become dependent on alcohol often don’t
realize how serious their problem is.
“Identifying the fine line between the two diagnoses can be difficult
in clinical settings and is impossible for most drinking alcoholics,”
says National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism spokeswoman
Ann Bradley.
Denial is widely considered to be an element of alcoholism, blurring
a fine line even further.
“But people do not go on
and off the wagon and spend time trying to change their drinking
if they are not alcoholic,” says Rob Morgan, president and CEO of
Cybersober.com, who has abstained for more than five years. “One
of the biggest problems with alcoholism is denial and moderation
allows that to stay alive.”
Two Sides, Many Views
Moderation Management board member Marc Kern says drinking problems,
like other behavior disorders, lie on a continuum and people who
identify their problem early on should be offered an alternative
to abstinence. “To tell everyone one size fits all is absolutely
absurd,” he says. “We’re going to chase people away.”
But Fulton Crews, director of the Center for Alcohol Studies at
the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, says Kern’s argument
is flawed. He believes moderation groups do problem drinkers a disservice
because they offer the wrong motivation, luring them with the very
drug to which they are addicted.
Yet dangling a “drug carrot” — such as methadone for heroin addicts
— is a common harm-reduction treatment approach for illicit drug
addicts, points out William Miller, director of research at the
Center on Alcoholism, Substance Abuse, and Addictions at the University
of New Mexico.
“Alcohol abuse and dependence comes in degrees. It’s continuous
— like hypertension,” says Miller. Treatment, he says, should be
done in relation to the severity of the problem, as well as a patient’s
willingness to work on it.
Walking the Tightrope
According to the NIAAA, there are four times as many alcohol abusers
as dependents in the United States. But federally funded research
has found that 93 percent of American treatment programs are abstinence-based
12-step programs.
Most American 12-step programs are modeled on Alcoholics Anonymous,
a spiritual self-help group founded by Bill W. in 1935. As well
as committing to abstinence, AA members admit they are powerless
over alcohol. But moderation groups say they aim to help early-stage
problem drinkers, who want to learn to control their alcohol intake
before they become powerless or “hit bottom.”
Even problem drinkers may be powerless to set limits, however. Miller,
the University of New Mexico researcher, discovered that many find
staying within moderate drinking limits “a tightrope walk,” and
ultimately decide to quit drinking altogether.
Moderation as Prevention
Genetics may also weigh in on the side of the abstinence theory.
Many believe that alcoholism is an irreversible, progressive genetic
disease, best treated with abstinence. Studies from the 1970s documented
that alcoholism does run in families, but did not resolve whether
a child learns to abuse alcohol from the home environment, or inherits
that tendency, or both.
But moderate drinker and founder of Drink/Link programs Donna Cornett
says the genetics argument is “a misconception” that limits and
labels people. “Prevention is the cornerstone of medicine,” Cornett
says, adding that moderation programs may help people gain control
before they are trapped in a devastating cycle of alcohol abuse.
In summing up 10 years of research on moderation programs, Miller
says only 15 percent of people who seek help succeed in limiting
their drinking in the long run.
Rather than lay blame or make accusations, Kern urges, it may be
more fruitful for Americans to rethink the role alcohol plays in
society overall.
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From
the South Florida Business Journal
Fort Lauderdale-based CyberSober.com's for-profit
Web site is, well, unusual. The mega-directory contains the dates,
times, locations and directions to more than 155,000 meetings and
14,000 treatment centers for a variety of recovering addicts.
It's the brainchild of recovering alcoholic and CyberSober
CEO Rob Morgan.
"I didn't start it to make money," said
Morgan, anticipating everyone's first question. "I was in Dallas
a few years ago and tried without success to find an Alcoholics
Anonymous meeting after 5 p.m. The AA office was closed and I couldn't
locate a local meeting to attend."
As with most 12-step recovery programs, regular follow-up
attendance at meetings is required to boost or reinforce recovery.
The trick when traveling or on vacation is finding where they are
and what times they are held.
"A few months later, nearly the same thing happened
in Cincinnati," Morgan said. "That time I did get someone
on the phone but I got no choice of meetings and poor directions
to find the one that I did get. There had to be a better way."
The better way, to Morgan's thinking, was CyberSober.com,
incorporated in February. The site now lists meetings nationwide
for a number of 12-step programs. They include Alcoholics Anonymous,
Al-Anon, Al-Teen, Co-Dependencey Anon, Narcotics Anony-mous, Cocaine
Anon, Gamblers Anon and one called Arts Anon for artists who fear
rejection.
Organizations do not pay for inclusion, nor do they
endorse the CyberSober.com site.
The site had more than 235,000 visitors between February
and June. It gets more than 5,000 hits a day and climbing, according
to company records. A 30-day, $7,400 advertising program on Yahoo!
has nearly doubled daily traffic since it started a week ago.
Last week, CyberSober had two booths at the National
Association of Alcohol and Drug Counselors and received "a
lot of interest," Morgan said.
The world of the dot.com is none too secure on today's
Wall Street. The fashion Web site Boo.com went out of business a
couple of weeks ago after burning through $130 million of capital
in six months. Amazon.com under Jeff Bezos has lost more than $500
million since inception, has never made a penny of profit-and is
running out of capital. How can obscure CyberSober survive in this
tough environment?
For Morgan, who loves swimming, golf and collectible
cigars, the answer is both optimistic and realistic.
"I'm no saint," he said. "I just want
to help where I can. The money will follow if we are successful
in offering a service that people appreciate and need."
Morgan's dot.com foray hasn't been cheap and the
true believer has done it all with his own money.
"I've put in $690,000 so far and counting, with
another $310,000 earmarked for the project," he said.
The CyberSober burn rate is $40,000 a month including
salaries for 10 employees. That's modest by most dot.com standards,
but will flame the entire capital pool within seven months if income
sources are not developed or additional capital secured.
The company
is housed in the Palace Blue Inn at the Beach, a motel owned by
another Morgan corporation. The executive office is upstairs and
overlooks a swimming pool with an overgrown garden.
Downstairs, young tekkies in a spacious suite input
the latest content updates and tweak impressive site servers and
network peripherals. The beach is two blocks away, the Intracoastal
Waterway three.
The membership-only site costs $19.95 a year to join.
There are 240 paying members already signed with thousands of others
visiting gratis during CyberSober's introductory phase. Morgan points
out there are also daily trial memberships available, and there
is no limit on the number of trial memberships an individual can
have.
Recent upgrades to the site include MapQuest, which
costs CyberSober $14,000 a year. It enables members to print out
color maps and directions to meetings at no charge.
What does the recovery industry think about the five-month-old
CyberSober? For the most part, it's news to them.
"Sounds like it could be helpful," said
Marc Goldberg, intake coordinator at Boca Raton's Watershed Treatment
Program. He had heard about the site, but hadn't seen it.
"We offer a free 800 nationwide help line and
service by phone, but don't offer it online or with maps,"
he said.
Alcoholics Anonymous offers a Web site (http://www.aa.org)
but it has no master list of meetings and locations. It does have
a state-by-state list of local help and meeting referral organizations,
called intergroups.
Locally, there are intergroups in West Palm Beach,
Delray Beach, Fort Lauderdale, a French-speaking group in Hollywood,
plus two in Miami, one Spanish-speaking. The AA Web site makes it
clear that Alcoholics Anonymous does not endorse or recommend any
treatment center or outside service.
A woman on the telephone at the AA intergroup in Delray
Beach, (members request anonymity), said she was unfamiliar with
the CyberSober site, but would check it out.
Goldberg wondered how CyberSober would make money,
but said he was supportive of anything that would help recovering
patients succeed.
Morgan's firm is developing revenue sources. Since
CyberSober will not release members' names or contact information,
it is somewhat limited in the more lucrative advertising options
and tie-ins.
"Banner ads are a no-brainer when we hit critical
mass," Morgan said. "But they have dimmed in popularity
over the last year or so."
The firm plans to offer treatment center rehab packages
to corporate human resource departments, collecting a commission
from treatment centers.
The relapse rate for recovering addicts from all treatment
centers is high, according to industry statistics. Morgan plans
to license CyberSober to clinics for $1,500 a year to aid them in
improving their reputations and results for patient after-care with
insurance companies.
The treatment centers, in turn, may introduce and
recommend CyberSober to all their patients as a continuing recovery
resource.
In the immediate future, CyberSober has plans to apply
for a federal grant.
Further out are plans for expansion to Canada, Europe
and other large international markets. Supervised chat rooms and
online meetings also have been started.
E-Mail Staff Technology Writer Ed Duggan at EDuggan@bizjournals.com
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